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It's an interesting point, and one worth talking about, but outside of an academic interest there's not much point to it. Correct me if I'm wrong
Yes the masculine ideal is typically being used in manipulating people into this heterosexuality religious belief, look at how they portray Gay/Bi males as effeminate 98% of the time. Just one example. Most real BI males would never come out as it would kill 1/2 his sex life.Well why will no one do anything? And Please before you do Change the Name really what do you think the Media will make this look like? This might be one of the most important areas of science right now just think of the Problems males 14-26yo have and them understand much of this could be because we altered their normal sexuality.
Who knows maybe some of you are heterosexual or maybe your not. These things will take generations to clean up 50-150 years maybe of hard effort to clean up the Homophobia. I believe Everyone can see some of these tactics and effects they are having on others. You do not have to believe me, but what we ask is you STOP the homophobic programming especially targeting Young males. No one is asking you to Change we all just ask you stop passing along the Bies to your children for 2-4 generations so we can start to see more Nature behavior these things are interfering with. Even if you do not think these things effect you I am sure most will admit they are created to and do effect others.......
Sorry we are just Guys, we really care about sexuality not these gender issues and see much of the effort to paint us all with this pink feminine gay brush as not only counter productive but a clear attempt to keep us looking like outsiders or queer if you wish
Yes all we ask is Help killing homophobia where ever you see it, and to Please not pass these issues along to children. These tactics can be really tricky but normally involve connecting Non Heterosexuality in Males as very Negative, Unattractive, Unwanted, Non-Normal, and many other ways to try to connection negative connotation to these ideas in peoples minds. We should all be smart enough to spot these 'control' tactics.Also I ask you stop interfering with the Interaction between males, this is Key we disconnect young males with this No Homo stuff they should have NO Fear or issues with physical contact. This has nothing to do with sexuality nor is it natural for humans to have these types of issues. You can really watch 15-20yo males and see how we are progressing just watching them play and hang out with each other. When you see them hold back or afraid to have any type of prolonged physical contact you know this is because the got the Homo Bug and we need to try harder with the next generation until its Gone 100%.This is ALL we ask, I know its hard but its better for your children and the world anyway. All other issues will work themselves out on their own really this is ALL I am asking for
The word Heterosexual was first used in the 19thcentury in response to a piece of Muslim legislation that made same-sex erotic behavior illegal.
@ GBT Well now I see where you're coming from. The thing is, when you talk about sexuality, you're also necessarily talking about gender. When we say "homosexual" we mean to say that one is attracted to people of one's own gender. So to say that queerness focuses too much on gender and not enough on sexuality doesn't quite make sense. You can't have a definition of sexuality without talking about gender, which is why the queer movement wants to do away with gender politics so as to make it impossible for the subjugation of not only women, intersex people, and others, but also for the LGBT community.
Yes, to be queer is to be an outsider. That's kind of the point. I think queerness has huge potential to end oppression and prejudice, but I also understand the pressure and temptation to want to "fit in" and be normalized. What I would say here is that this is pressure to be accepted into the very social system that causes these problems in the first place. Even if homosexuality does eventually become normalized, there will always be another identity for the system to subjugate. Do you see the problem here, or at least what I'm getting at? That we're using these methods of identification at all is what allows for oppression. What I'm arguing for is not "yes, let's allow gay men to be effeminate" but to say, "What is 'effeminate,' and why do we think this is a valid way to describe anyone?'" But, again, I understand where you're coming from and so at the end of the day, we'd have to agree to disagree.
@LukeYou said heterosexuality does not equal homophobia, which I definitely agree with, and I also want to make the point that in Will Grayson, Will Grayson, David Levithan's WG is gay, but before he realizes he's gay he uses the word as a derogatory term for things that he's not a fan of. For example, on page 24 of WG/WG, it says that "every now and then you get a teacher like mrs. grover, who's a sadistic loser. i mean, it can't be easy being a french teacher, because nobody really knows how to speak french anymore. and while she kisses the honor kid's derrieres, with standard kids she resents the fact that we're taking up her time, so she responds by giving us quizzes every day and giving us gay projects like "design your own ride for euro disney.""
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