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kirstykirsty Posts: 9
Any Latin nerds up in here? Dead languages for the win. Salve amicos! 
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  • ThamiresThamires Posts: 29
    OMG! Sadly, the only thing I remember from my Latin classes is "puella". But this thread is so awesome.  ^:)^
  • I want to learn Latin....
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  • mayorqwmayorqw LisbonPosts: 37
    I had two years' worth of Latin, but I stopped earlier this year :(
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  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    I have to admit, my Latin is pretty rusty. I have plans this year to work on it again though and get it back up to snuff.
  • mikiczmikicz Posts: 88
    I'm studying Latin third year now and I'm gonna study it one more. Honestly, I don't like it.
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  • thesaraohthesaraoh Posts: 142 ✭✭✭
    Salve! Quomodo vadis? Mihi nomen est Sarah! Quod nomen est tibi?

    That's all that's left of my Latin skills. I learned Latin for five years in school and I sometimes hated and sometimes liked it. And I have to say that it did help me when studying medicine because you can deduce many words if you have basic Latin knowledge.
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  • leonwingsteinleonwingstein VTPosts: 2,679 Mod
    Coqus est in culina.  Ancilla est in via.

    I can say where people are really well.  I've only taken an intro to Latin course, but I do pride myself on knowing some phrases and words.
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  • ThamiresThamires Posts: 29
    @mikics that sucks :/ It's so much easier to learn something we like. But why do you have to study Latin?
  • kirstykirsty Posts: 9
    I am right there with y'all--I took Latin all of high school and remembered nothing in college. I'm taking intermediate Latin now and I love it but it's also infuriating and I have a hard time remembering little rules. Just one more semester though! Yay!
  • A big reason why most people took Latin once and forget most of it is that finding instances for conversational Latin is rare - after all, it is supposedly a dead language. Also the fact that we do not know how things were pronounced positively, which seems to be a very textural intuitive part of learning a language.

    I wonder if there is a nerdfighterly daily Latin blog somewhere on the Web? Will check later.

    (PS - I took a year of Latin and a year of German to better understand English, and although I cannot speak either I use little bits of each all the time.)
    But then again, I could be wrong.
  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    Also the fact that we do not know how things were pronounced positively, which seems to be a very textural intuitive part of learning a language.
    Not entirely true. Classical Latin has some fairly standard rules to follow for pronunciation, and there are many papers and workshops and lectures on the topic.
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  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2012
    It seems there is quite the variety of opinion regarding Latin in here - some like it, some dislike it, some are forced to learn it, etc. - so I am curious: what are people's reasons for studying Latin? Is it something your school system requires, or is it more of a personal interest that spurred your study? 
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  • StevenSteven Posts: 3
    I think Latin is a way of learning to learn, or that's how i experienced it, I had 4 years of Latin, 'till i stopped this year. You won't need Latin to speak with others or for your general education, it's just who's interested in Latin, learn it, who doesn't stay away. But in my case: I liked it and it was a great experience, I learned how to be constructif and to plan. That's my opinion.
  • WietskeWietske NetherlandsPosts: 357 ✭✭
    I go to Grammar school. This year is my sixth year of Latin, but I fail at it. We are reading Seneca at the moment.. I like him. 
    It was either Latin or Ancient Greek and at that time I was worse at Ancient Greek than Latin, so that's why I take Latin. And because 7 years ago I thought my school would be a nice school, which it is.. but I don't really like Latin. 
  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2012
    @Steven You won't need Latin for general education, no, but for some specialties it is certainly helpful - if not necessary. For example, to study anything in Roman history or even early Medieval history in detail, a working knowledge of Latin is essential. Even during the Renaissance, the vast majority of printed materials were in Latin. So it would be like trying to study 20th-century Britain without knowing something about English. 

    But I agree with you that, for those non-specialists, studying Latin can nonetheless provide a lot of insight. And that's mostly what my question is about - what do the non-specialists enjoy (or not) about Latin? What do they take away from it?

    Edit: And I say "they" in that last sentence because I find myself on the other side of the spectrum, with the specialists. Thus my curiosity.
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  • aswjaswj Posts: 13

    what do the non-specialists enjoy (or not) about Latin? What do they take away from it?
    I was required to take Latin for a year. We didn't cover much, class was 90 minutes per week. I enjoyed that it was relatively easy compared to Russian, but the difference between the number of cases made me more hesitant with Russian declination sometimes. I couldn't really make real use of it yet, but it might be helpful in dealing with literary texts that rely more heavily on Latin sources than quoting a simple non omnis moriar, or whenever I choose to take up Italian. I think it can improve your ability to think in systems, but other grammars are good for that too probably.
  • TeslaTesla Posts: 20
    If my high school offered Latin, I would switch right away! Sadly that was not the case; I had to settle with Spanish, which is frankly not as cool, in my opinion. :(

    My only Latin skill is copying and pasting Lorem Ipsum text as fillers while coding web pages and whatnot. XD
  • drwholovedrwholove Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭
    I'm taking Latin at my high school now. It is my second year of Latin, and I am gradually disliking it more and more. But, that could be the teacher. We use the Cambridge Latin Course for our textbook, and I think it's extraordinarily funny at points. What textbooks do others use/are there other Cambridge Latiners? :D
  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    @drwholove I find the instructor has a huge influence on how interesting Latin can be. I had one Latin professor for two years who was extremely knowledgeable in the subject, but was a dreadful bore and it made doing the work that much more tedious. Especially after having a really engaging prof the year before!

    And I am a Wheelock's Latin devotee myself. I haven't heard much about the Cambridge textbook though, to be honest. 
  • kirstykirsty Posts: 9
    drwholove said:
    I'm taking Latin at my high school now. It is my second year of Latin, and I am gradually disliking it more and more. But, that could be the teacher. We use the Cambridge Latin Course for our textbook, and I think it's extraordinarily funny at points. What textbooks do others use/are there other Cambridge Latiners? :D
    My high school used the Cambridge Latin textbooks and I loved them! I totally agree that the stories can be funny! And I like that the characters travel through the whole set of books. I miss it! I'm in college Latin now and we used a random textbook for first year, but now we use Wheelock's. I like Wheelock's but I preferred Cambridge's layout and stories.
  • radianttoeradianttoe Posts: 1
    Caecilius est in hortus. THAT IS ALL
  • @radianttoe You forgot: "Matella est mater"...!!
  • BelisariusBelisarius Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    @radianttoe Pedant alert - horto*
  • WietskeWietske NetherlandsPosts: 357 ✭✭
    @drwholove I find the instructor has a huge influence on how interesting Latin can be. I had one Latin professor for two years who was extremely knowledgeable in the subject, but was a dreadful bore and it made doing the work that much more tedious. Especially after having a really engaging prof the year before!

    And I am a Wheelock's Latin devotee myself. I haven't heard much about the Cambridge textbook though, to be honest. 

    What your teacher is like matters a lot in my six years I've had four different teachers for Latin and I can say that I liked two of them and did a lot more in class and made a lot more homework than when I had the other two teachers. I have my favourite Latin teacher this year :) Which is great, because I'll be taking my final exams this year.
  • PlumPlum Posts: 10
    And that's mostly what my question is about - what do the non-specialists enjoy (or not) about Latin? What do they take away from it?
    The first two years I took latin, I didn't enjoy a lot of it, haha. But then, the grammatical rules are already a bit dry and thouroughly non-enjoyable (at least for a 11 yo kid), but I had the misfortune of having a terrible teacher... However, in my third year, we had another teacher, and we began to learn about poetry and meters and scansion, and suddenly everything got more interesting. And then, my next teacher was super funny and made everything so entertaining, I really don't think I would have enjoyed latin half as much without him.
    And now, I kind of really miss it...

    Having a good teacher makes such a huge difference, it's amazing.
  • I'm reading French and Linguistics at university now, and I wish my school had allowed me to take Latin, but we're just a little state comp, so no such luck. :( It would have been so useful for my History of French paper.
  • MimiMimi Posts: 10

    @radianttoe You forgot: "Matella est mater"...!!
    Matella in atrio sedet!
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  • kim13kim13 Posts: 3
    salve, amicī! I'm in my 5th year of studying Latin! :)
  • happystedhappysted Posts: 2
    edited November 2012
    Salve, amici! Latinam amo! In meo triente anno sum. 
    (Hi, friends! I love Latin! I'm in my third year)
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