Who do you believe will win the election

There's been a lot of hype about Donald trump and Hilary Clinton but aside from those candidates who are you rooting for the most and why?

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  • Lavache_BeadsmanLavache_Beadsman New YorkPosts: 661 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Bernie Sanders. I'm not as starry-eyed about him as many other people on the left seem to be, and there's a lot I don't like about him, but here are the two things I do like about him:

    A) He advocates for a single-payer healthcare system. I won't lie; I'm pretty much a single-issue voter. I think privatized healthcare (especially our brand of it) is one of the most immoral institutions in the country today. It is a shame and an embarrassment to our nation that our government does not ensure that all citizens have access to proper healthcare.

    B) He's not Hillary Clinton. I really don't like Clinton. I think she very well may be a criminal, and we all already know that she is a habitual liar and a shameless opportunist. I think a Clinton victory would be bad for America, and I'm glad Sanders is giving her a run for her money in the polls.

    (PS: The title of this thread is a bit misleading: it's not the question you asked. I forget whether or not you can change titles, but if you can, you might want to).
    by Lavache_Beadsman
  • ErghErgh DutchlandPosts: 2
    Let it be Bernie Sanders. For the love of all that's important...

    The fact that the republicans still live in their own little world, which is completely unrelated to an average everyday life, and aren't honest about WHAT they stand for and who they represent is just scary. Hillary Clinton is pretty much the same in that regard.

    Does anyone expect any real change under any of these republicans or Hillary as president of the United States? Only Bernie Sanders is speaking of what has to be done (in his view, which I often agree upon), that would truly bring democracy (back) and equality to the country.

    Bernie Sanders is the president the world (not just the USA) needs and deserves for a REAL better future for you and your (future) spouse.
  • Lavache_BeadsmanLavache_Beadsman New YorkPosts: 661 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Ergh said:

    Does anyone expect any real change under any of these republicans or Hillary as president of the United States? Only Bernie Sanders is speaking of what has to be done (in his view, which I often agree upon), that would truly bring democracy (back) and equality to the country.



    Unfortunately, I don't think it's that simple. I think Sanders might get us on the right track to equality, but nothing suggests that his platform--even if it is politically feasible, which I doubt--might achieve it. Specifically, look at his solution to income disparity; it's the same Occupy Wall Street liberalism: tax the rich, redistribute the wealth. What Sanders conveniently forgets is that even a very severe wealth tax wouldn't make a dent in income disparity. There's simply not enough individual wealth to redistribute. 

    This is why real democratic socialists (I don't care what Bernie calls himself; he is and always has been a social democrat) like myself aren't crazy about Sander's progressivism. What really needs to be done, if we're serious about addressing income disparity, is to nationalize certain industries and establish some sort of social dividend. There's a similar problem with raising the minimum wage to $15/hour. Sure, it would improve conditions for the working class, but let's be frank: that's still only an annual salary of $32,000 a year. This would not be "income equality;" it would be the same welfare liberalism Obama promised and failed to deliver.

    As to the claim that Sander's is the president we "need and deserve:" he may very well be the candidate we need, but I think more and more that the candidate we deserve is Donald J. Trump.
    by Lavache_Beadsman
  • GenersisGenersis London, England, UK, Europe, Earth, Sol, Milky Way, Universe.Posts: 5
    I like Sanders, but I'm not sure if he'd win in 2016(depends who his competition is).
    Though I voted for Corbyn as Labour leader here in UK land(neither am I confident in his 2020 chances), so Sanders is perhaps the obvious choice for me.
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