Do you live in the U.S.? Have you done any actual research on accents in this country? There isn't much variation here. In the U.K. you can walk down the street and find completely different accents but that doesn't happen in the U.S. If you talk to someone from California or New York (except Brookly) we all sound the same. The most variation we get are from people who weren't actually born in this country. The further south I travel in California the more Mexican accents I hear. Weather they're legal citizens or not isn't relevant to this conversation what is relevant is that they obviously didn't grow up here, but rather in Mexico. A Mexican who was born and raised in the U.S. wouldn't have an accent. Like wise it may be true that not everyone in the south sound like Cowboys but everyone who grew up there do. There are people in the North who have Southern accents because they grew up in the South. It's not where you live now that matters it's where you were raised so all those variations you think are American actually aren't. There's only three that actually develop here.
I was born and raised in the West Coast, and I've gone to school in the East Coast. While at school, I've been told I had an accent, or that I sound like I'm "not from around here". To say that there's not much variations of the U.S. accent is something said by someone who is unaware.
People in California pronounce words differently from people in New York. People from New York pronounce words differently from people in Minnesota. I can't believe I have to argue this. I don't mean this offensively, but,,, seriously? Are you really unaware? Do you really think all Americans, in all 50 states, only share 3 variations of accents? Do you honestly believe that?
Obviously, you don't have to take my word for it. Ask someone who'd know.
Everyone? Are you serious? You think that is Samuel L. Jackson's natural accent? Watch the Avengers and then watch the Star Wars Prequels again. Compare Mace Windu to Nick Fury, they are not the same. Nick Fury is his natural speaking voice. Mace Windu is a fake accent. You could also compare to Snakes on a Plane but I thought it would be better to watch a GOOD movie than to torture you with that. Samuel L. Jackson also does a lot of commercials he basically uses his normal speaking voice in everything EXCEPT Star Wars.
Yes, Samuel L. Jackson used his natural accent, I can't believe I have to say that. I'm beginning to question if you know what an accent is.
I hate to do this, but I feel like I need explain.
An accent is a the way a person pronounces his word. When a Bostonian says "Park the car in Boston yard", he pronounces it "Pack the cah in Baston Yad." When he says, "Burglar," he pronounces it "Burgla," when he says "Smuggler, he pronounces it "Smuggla." That is the stereotypical Boston accent
. Which is different from New York accents
which is different from Northwestern accents
which is different from Californian accents
That's actually overthinking. Yeah they deserve some credit for creating alien languages. Most sci-fi movies don't even do that and just have everyone speaking English. However just because they put some thought into it doesn't excuse the fact that English should not exist at all. The real life reason for why aliens speak English is that we speak English. It's much easier to understand a story when we can understand what the characters are saying.
It's mostly the human characters who speak English in Star Wars and we kind of just accept it despite the fact it makes no real sense. We kind of just assume they can speak English because they came from Earth but as far as I can tell there's never been any evidence that Earth exists in their universe. Of course there's no real mention of any planet where the Human race originated from in their universe. Every other species has a home world but Humans tend to just be colonists who inhabit multiple different planets with no real home world of their own. Anytime you get into why Earth culture exists in a universe with no Earth you're going to overthink.
You are misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that our "English" exists in the Star Wars universe. I'm suggesting that, clearly, there is a language that is represented in that universe, that we hear as "English." And I'm suggesting that accents in that language matter. Jarjar Binks had an accent. Maz had an accent. Grievous had an accent. These characters come from different regions, with different cultures. I'm simply arguing that the "thought" could be applied to the RP accent.
I'm not confusing their accents with their speech, that's the same thing. There is no accent without speech.
They are not the same thing. You can't say that they are and then suggest one can't exist without the other. That would make them 2 different things that rely on each other.
They sound proper because they have British accents. Americans don't talk like that. The only English speaking people in the word who actually speak proper English like that are in England. You are hearing what I'm hearing but are attributing the accent to a totally different country than where it's actually from. That is not American, it's British.
I'm sort of exhausted trying to argue against this. I need a second and third opinion. Maybe you'd listen to them.
She looked like she was only 4 or 5 to me. Still it wouldn't matter because even if she had grown up with her father that wouldn't mean she would have the same accent. As I explained before parents actually have little to no effect on how their child will talk. Hence why Sarah can speak perfect English despite her mother having a thick German accent. The only way that Rey would share the same accent is if she grew up on the same planet that Luke did. I know they look very similar but Jako is not Tattooine.
I am living proof that children take accents after their parents. I am a full-blooded Korean. I grew up in a Korean house. To this day, I've retained a slight accent that I can not shake. It's not enough for others to notice (you, for example, may not hear it,) but my fellow Koreans would, very easily. And visa versa. I could even hear it in John Cho's voice. Could you (I am sincerely curious)?
You really need to do some research on accents and child development. Kids can pick up on difference accents a lot easier than adults can. If she were in her teens then maybe she would retain her accent but as young as she was, her vocal cords have barely started to develop.
If children can pick up on different accents so easily, how could you say a parent has little affect on their children's accents? Of course they'd have a big affect. ESPECIALLY when they're younger. That's when they're around their parents the most in there lives.
Even as old as Anakin was in episode 1 he wasn't done developing yet and could easy pick up a different accent and in fact did. For a teenager it only takes a year to develop a different accent. It may very from one person to the next as everyone develops at different rates but that's the average. Adults may take longer. With kids, it doesn't take long at all. The younger the child the easier it is.
You are suggesting, then, that the all of the people Rey was surrounded by spoke in RP? As pronounced as her accent is, that would mean that everyone living on Jakku would have had just as strong an accent. You can argue that Unkar (played by Simon Pegg, who does have an RP accent) could be an influence, but do you think she'd pick up and accent soley from him? That's not how someone develops an accent.
I developed most of my accents in childhood. Yeah I said accents as in more than one. I am an actor after all. All I had to do was hear it once and then I could copy it. The only accent I was never able to do was Scottish because I could never figure out how to roll my R's like they do and at this point in my life I probably never will. I was already starting to go threw puberty by the time I got around to Scottish accents trying to do that with my voice constantly cracking didn't help.
Preaching to the choir, mister. I love figuring out accents, American (which is to say, Bostonian, Midwestern, Brooklyn, Californian, etc.) and otherwise. I, too, have trouble rolling Rs (again, I blame that on the slight Korean accent I've retained), but I could do whatever Scottish accent Craig Ferguson has, as well as Korean, Chinese and Filipino.
At her age in that scene, I don't think she had even developed an accent yet. She was still at an age where little kids are just starting to learn pronunciation. That accent wasn't regional, it was little kiddish.
Anyone who can form sentences will have an accents. We could both just agree that there wasn't a discernible accent in that scene.